an open post to the NSA and CIA and any other alphabet soup agency
Note: i am a firearms enthusiast. i love to shoot. i talk to people on the telephone about arranging range trips, buying ammo, and other assorted activities associated with shooting. i am not now, or in the near future planning on launching a middle aged white guy jihad against the government. not yet anyway.
Please feel free to do what you need to, especially if it pisses off the ACLU and various other moonbat, america hating groups.
Thank you
bothenook
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EXCELLENT!! Ditto all the above! Good imagination.....Cookie
Hal, make no mistake. We are monitoring you and your questionable associates around the clock. We have already bagged 16 nukes and you could be next. Relax, we hear you will most likely be able to plea bargain.
Funny. To me, "hating America" means believing the government is incorruptible.
I can't imagining a more anti-American stance than telling the government, "Do whatever you want." People like you would welcome tyranny, as long as it said the right things and made people at the ACLU angry.
Useful idiots. God help us.
that's me, the useful idiot. i've been useful in many ways, including serving onboard submarines. i've also realized that there is nothing i ever talk about on the phone that is of interest to anyone. usually even the person i'm talking to.
do i have a problem with the government listening to phone calls originating in the various hotspots? hell no.
do i give a rat's ass if they "monitor" my calling patterns? no. why should i? i'm not breaking any laws, so why should i care, especially if the process can potentially track down and KILL a terror cell in this country.
sounds good to me.
of course, that's because i'm a useful idiot.
HEAR HEAR!!!
i'm not breaking any laws, so why should i care, especially if the process can potentially track down and KILL a terror cell in this country.
sounds good to me.
And now that the surveillance apparatus is in place, I'm sure you'll have absolutely no problem if a future president - one of your ideological enemies, perhaps - decides to turn it against you, a candidate you like, or a group you belong to.
You like it 'cause it's Bush. If it were Hillary Clinton, you'd be screaming. Well, guess what? Bush won't always be in power. You have no idea who'll be in power 3, or 5, or 8 years from now. But by saying "Anything the government wants to do to 'protect me' is fine with me," you're pretty much assenting to the idea of an all-knowing, incorruptible nanny state that can do no wrong. I remember when conservatives thought that was a bad idea. I remember when they were realists.
Seems like a long time ago, now.
Like I said, useful idiots.
hey there petaluma. you bring up some very valid points, and i'll probably post my "why it isn't a big deal" entry later this evening. i will say that anyone that uses a landline or cell phone in this country, and doesn't think there are databases with that info not only stored, but utilized by several entities, both government and commercial hasn't been paying attention to what is going on in the world.
commercially, there has been a big hullabaloo in california lately about how the phone service providers have been SELLING their database data to commercial enterprises. the specific uses of that data hasn't been addressed in the press, but anyone with an inkling of marketing can figure out what they are using that info for.
anyway, i'll post later this evening why the government doesn't freak me out as much as it might others when it comes to tracking phone calls.
thanks for posting. it's always good to have an intelligent conversation about hot-button topics, even if you do use phrases like "useful idiots". i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. something you don't seem capable of doing.
hey there petaluma.
Do you find it at all ironic that you're making this remark about where I live - and announcing your apparent willingness to let the government invade people's privacy without checks and balances - you've signed an "online intergrity" pledge in support of online privacy and the right to online anonymity?
That said, thanks for your civil reply. I look forward to your post. I apologize for the term "useful idiots," and for not giving you the benefit of the doubt. However, please note that your original post suggested that people who have concerns about this program are "moonbat, america hating groups." Now, however, you say I bring up "very valid" points.
Seems to me you engaged in name-calling first, and refused to give opponents of this plan the benefit of the doubt...at least as far as their motivations are concerned. But if we're past that now, and can get on to substance, that's great. Again, thanks.
excellent.
i didn't say who you were, just tried pointing out that there is an amazing amount of info out there that is EASILY obtained, even by almost computer illiterate users.
my "moonbat" comments were generated following an afternoon of surfing "the dark side". i have an almost knee jerk reaction to that mentality, and i'm afraid i succumbed to it myself.
i'll be thinking up a response after i go pedal 21 miles to nowhere.
you know, i used to like going to the gym.
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